United States Unit List - 01/21/08

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United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  ProvostGuard on Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:52 pm

United States Unit List
Last updated January 21, 2008

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United States Infantry



Regular of the United States Army. Available Age 1.

Above-average firepower and defense. Cannot use square formation. Can use skirmish formation.

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United States Marine



Elite, naval-infantry of the United States. Available Age 1.

High firepower and defense. Cannot use square formation. Can use skirmish formation. Can be trained from barracks and ships.

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Light Dragoon -> United States Dragoon -> United States Cavalry



Ranged cavalryman that can dismount. Available Age 1.

Above-average firepower and average hand-attack. Can dismount in Age 3.

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Militia



Poorly-trained militiaman. Available Age 1.

Average firepower and low defense. Cannot use square formation. Can use skirmish formation. Can be trained from town center and barracks.

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Mounted Rifleman



Militia cavalry-man. Available Age 3.

Average firepower and low defense.

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Engineer



Infantry and pioneer trained in engineering. Available Age 3.

Average firepower and high defense. Cannot use square formation. Can use skirmish formation. Can plant mines, construct military buildings, cut trees, and use explosives.

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Mississippi Rifle -> Sharpshooter or Trans-Mississippi Rifle





Skilled rifleman. Available Age 4.

Above-average firepower and high defense. Must be shipped. Cannot use square formation. Can use skirmish formation. Becomes Trans-Mississippi Rifle if you choose a Southern politician.

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New York State Militia



Well-drilled militia from New York State. Available Age 5.

Average firepower and defense. Must be shipped. Cannot use square formation. Can use skirmish formation.

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All pictures originally by Ageod. Some edited by me.


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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  alvaro_qc on Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:17 am

by the way, now you are admin


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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  KrakenBits on Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:16 am

I am really in love with the unit icons and the format that you're using for these new unit lists. I think this mod uses the best textures and I really do like this mod. I'd love to help once I learn how to create units, which I am working on right now.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  ProvostGuard on Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:21 am

Thanks!

About the icons... I took them from the demo versions of Ageod games, which are turn-based strategy games. I hope they don't mind. However, many of the icons I've edited or recolored to fit the Revolutions mod.

If you need help texturing or something, feel free to ask.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Abadu on Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:13 pm

I liked those icons,they look a bit strange at first,byt I really liked them.
Will you include more civil war "special units"?

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  ProvostGuard on Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:01 pm

Thanks.

I chose these icons because they were more flexible to work with and have greater consistency. It looks more professional I think.

I will be adding some more Civil War units, or at least unit "flavors". In the Ageod games (where I borrowed the icons), when you build an infantry unit, there's a chance that'll turn out to be a Zouave or something. It has the same exact stats, but it looks different. In the Revolutions mod, the shipment units will usually look different that the ones you build, though they might have the same exact states. Sometimes the difference is only minor, like a different hat or different colored shirt. Anyway, expect to see the Garibaldi Guards, Colored Infantry, and Zouaves for the Union.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Abadu on Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:08 pm

Very interesting,just a note,the Garibaldi Guards were,If Im not wrong,cosiidered shock troops,so their stats might reflect this.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  ProvostGuard on Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:21 pm

The Garibaldi Guards will certainly be the most unique shipment units. They get their own standard bearer, officer, and drummer. They'll also fight a lot better than most American units, and probably be able to use the square formation to reflect their European background. However, that means no skirmish formation.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Jack on Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:39 pm

Umm one question, why would you need more than one icon if a unit only has the limit of 1 icon unless your going to change it..A different icon every age perhaps?

and one question what does it meen by saying it cant use square formation? monkey

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  ProvostGuard on Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:38 pm

The icons change because the units change with each age. It's only historical accuracy.

The square formation is equivalent of an infantry square. Your soldiers will gather into a square with more important or vulnerable units in the center. It increases their attack and defense against cavalry, but also limits their firing range and speed. Units in a square will be particularly vulnerable to artillery fire.

The United States rarely used the square formation. Militia probably lacked the discipline and training to effectively use it, and the Regular Army was more accustomed to fighting guerilla wars with Natives.

Because the Americans also lack a skirmisher unit, all of its infantry can fight in skirmish formation. For the other nations, the skirmish formation is limited to skirmisher. However, the American skirmish formation will be much less effective.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Abadu on Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:38 pm

Do you think that it would ruin the US uniquess that much if you include a rifleman unit(There were some companies,at least untill the war of 1812)?
Also,look at the workshop,I posted some pictures wich may help you.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  alvaro_qc on Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:32 pm

so if I undserstood, when I advance of age "X" unit is unable to be made and that "X1" is now enabled but what will happen with the "X" units, will they be transformed automatically in "X1"?

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  arrowhead64 on Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:45 am

ooo good question.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Jack on Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:25 pm

alvaro_qc wrote:so if I undserstood, when I advance of age "X" unit is unable to be made and that "X1" is now enabled but what will happen with the "X" units, will they be transformed automatically in "X1"?

If only i got what he just said...

So Provost Guard youre saying that when i select a bunch of american militia they wont go into a square formation like most civs..

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  ProvostGuard on Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:10 pm

The Age1 units will become Age2 units.

Right, they won't be able to fight in a square formation.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Abadu on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:27 am

So Provost,what do you tihnk of add a rifleman shipment unit ?You could also have a way to upgrade infantry to them(To represent the rifle companies that fought in the war of 1812 and earlier;Dont know latter)

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Jack on Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:59 am

ProvostGuard wrote:The Age1 units will become Age2 units.

Right, they won't be able to fight in a square formation.

That would make some intresting battles Very Happy

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Abadu on Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:59 pm

You could have the washington lifeguards as an early elite shipment unit.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  ProvostGuard on Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:32 pm

Washington's Life Guards were disbanded in 1783 at the end of the American Revolution.

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Re: United States Unit List - 01/21/08

Post  Abadu on Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:55 pm

Oh,for a moment I forgot that the start date is in 1790

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